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GazzaBangor
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Registration date : 2009-09-27

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PostSubject: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySat Jun 11 2011, 20:26

Hi Guys,

Just put a KR 16V into my MK1 and it feels underpowered. Any ideas what the problem can be??? No missfires and engine runs fine? Confused?

Thanks
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scottymk1
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scottymk1

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Ride : mk1 golf gti, mk3 golf gti, mk4 golf 16v, mk5 golf fsi,
Registration date : 2009-05-17

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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySat Jun 11 2011, 21:35

Hi m8 what do you mean by underpowered as my mk1 gti has blitzed every 16v it's come up against. The 16v is pretty poor in my opinion as u got to keep it at high revs to Get the most out of the engine, I originally thought about doing this conversion until I drove a few 16v's and decided against it as i thought it was just not as crisp as my 8v, people say it's more reliable and got better tuning outputs but in my opinion it's better to just mod the 8v
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fatdick
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 08:35

Disagree sorry, most valvers if running corectly should push out 150bhp even though vw qouted 139bhp for the golf and 136 for the corrado most push out 150 on the rollers and should make the mk1 absolutely fly and is always been classed as a good conversion in the light MK1, Best way is to get it rolling roaded at stealth and get the wur mod done check fuel pump pressure and check plugs and ignition timing might just be a running issue! You do have to rev the valver hard to make it work as it was originaly built as a race engine
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scottymk1
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 16:22

My comment is not intended to offend any 16v owners in anyway it is just an opinion of what I think. Personally I love the 8v in a mk1
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20v-turbo
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20v-turbo

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Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah
Registration date : 2009-11-01

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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 20:16

8vs are gd low end, the 16v will be a kik in the teeth at high revs though, if it feels underpowerd then it cd be the kjet system playinng up nd need a gd clean? or try plugs and leads fr strnger spark?

but if u want the kr to feel like a gti ull need a 2litre bottom end on it in order to get some torq

if u feel its too underpoerd then rollers and see wats happend to the hold horses
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scottymk1
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 21:44

I'm going by my 8v with head skimmed to max, power roar pipe k&n full stainless etc and ive only driven standard 16v's so if I drove a 16 with the same work it would be a different cup of tea all together lol
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20v-turbo
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 21:45

ye i loved my 8v mk2 preferd it to a 16v one, but guy in wrexams gt 205bhp from a 16v kr and tht shifts haha
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GazzaBangor
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 22:09

Where can I get the engine checked out locally? Im located in Bangor. Wouldnt mind timing check, static & ignition, CO, fuel pressure etc!
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20v-turbo
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptySun Jun 12 2011, 22:11

not many people are able to deal with the kjet systems but for general bits part from rolling road any garage should be able to do it tbf
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OwainMK1
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Ride : MK1 Golf Gti + MK5 Golf Gti
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptyWed Jun 15 2011, 22:31

get in contact with danmk1, he knows where you could get it set up properly, got some shit hot advice aswell mate.
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GazzaBangor
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptyWed Jun 15 2011, 22:43

All sorted!!!

Throttle cable not pulling the throttle body fully open!!!

Now flying - Where can I get the WUR modification done? Any ideas?
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fatdick
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PostSubject: Re: MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED   MK1 16V CONVERSION - FEELS UNDERPOWERED EmptyThu Jun 16 2011, 06:08

GazzaBangor wrote:
All sorted!!!

Throttle cable not pulling the throttle body fully open!!!

Now flying - Where can I get the WUR modification done? Any ideas?

Stealth racing are really good at the wur mod and are probably the best with the valver as theres not many about that tune these engines now with them being old! You can do it yourself but need a fuel pressure guage and it really needs rolling roaded to get the best from the mod, If you do some searching on the clubGti forum there is a thread on how to somewhere, Basicaly you drill a small hole in the brass plate on the wur and adjust the screw with an allen key to up the fueling
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