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cymru
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PostSubject: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Tue Jun 21 2011, 15:46

Hi,
all what would be the best engine swap for my 1.3 cl mk1 1982.

i.e straight in swap,
am looking for some better MPG as the car will be used as a daily.

i was thinking mk2 td, if so what year mk2 and is it a straight swap.

or a polo 1.3 and 5 speed box, is this also a straight swap...

any info on straight swap engines and boxs would be ideal.
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PostSubject: Re: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Wed Jun 22 2011, 05:00

any small block 1.0-1.3 polo engine will fit. best off getting a low milage polo for cheap and switching everything over.

diesel will need more new parts.

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PostSubject: Re: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Wed Jun 22 2011, 09:08

I did near enough this conversion...

If your going for a 5speed then a mount will need to be made of half of the polo gearbox on and then golf engine one...

Basically grind in half and weld

Wiring wise its pretty simple... don't need half of it, but depends if you got a ecu... you'll need a ignition amplifier though...

And also the throttle setup will need to be changed as the mk1 pedal is old style the pedal from where that engine came from will need to be sourced and the arm where the throttle cable clips onto shortened 20mm, and fitted with that throttle cable... failing that a custom throttle cable (when i looked into these they were 150+)

The diesels will need a new fuel tank and lines alot more work
With the injection, Youll need a new fuel tank with the fuel pump attached ie Mk3 polo GT engine...

Dont know if that makes sense....

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PostSubject: Re: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Thu Jun 23 2011, 15:20

thebreadmaker wrote:
any small block 1.0-1.3 polo engine will fit. best off getting a low milage polo for cheap and switching everything over.

diesel will need more new parts.

ive even seen a polo g40, but as you where saying 1.0-1.3 so the g40 might not be a option...
cheers

Luke_MK1 wrote:
I did near enough this conversion...

If your going for a 5speed then a mount will need to be made of half of the polo gearbox on and then golf engine one...

Basically grind in half and weld

Wiring wise its pretty simple... don't need half of it, but depends if you got a ecu... you'll need a ignition amplifier though...

And also the throttle setup will need to be changed as the mk1 pedal is old style the pedal from where that engine came from will need to be sourced and the arm where the throttle cable clips onto shortened 20mm, and fitted with that throttle cable... failing that a custom throttle cable (when i looked into these they were 150+)

The diesels will need a new fuel tank and lines alot more work
With the injection, Youll need a new fuel tank with the fuel pump attached ie Mk3 polo GT engine...

Dont know if that makes sense....

i can sort of get the jest of what your saying buddy, think if i go down the swap route i will buy a complete polo..
cheers
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PostSubject: Re: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Thu Jun 23 2011, 16:54

Your choice are for tunability purposes any of the 13/1.4/1.6 engines from the mk2f & 6n models.

As for ease of conversion then bike carbs are the easiest option as it would save the need to fit a whole injection/ECU loom, all you would need is the ignition setup from a 1.3 mk2 as it has its own stand alone loom.

As for custom throttle cables, you just need some solderless nipples and throttle cable from a rally supplies. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Wed Jun 29 2011, 09:04

my mate has got a caddy pickup, with a golf mk2 gtd in it, and it looks a real easy job to do the swap, so am thinking this could be my option,, but just in two minds about the smelly noisey derv engine.......
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PostSubject: Re: mk1 1.3 cl 1982 engine swap, whats the best option   Wed Jun 29 2011, 13:54

its really smelly and deffinately noisy haha!
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