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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:05 | |
| anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ??
hey i understand u can run a 16v on ITB but can u mke an 8v digifnt run on them?
and how dificult will it be to gett it running with the injection system and the ir mass sensor | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:12 | |
| apparently its not a widely done thing as the inlet on the head is on the rear of the engine, right above the exhaust - this poses issues with inlet temps.
i have heard about a crossflow head, but know nothing about it
bit of info here, cgti is the site for tech knowledge on tuning the older cars IMO
fyi you would block the injector ports and do away with AFM | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:16 | |
| cheers, i really want to run it on ITB cause its gived good performance looks nd sounds | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:19 | |
| itll be a right nightmare to run as a daily you would have to set it up with the seasons and if your sat in traffic the car will soon run lumpy etc.
id go with the 2litre bottom end with big exhaust valve P+P head, can & 4 branch etc - if you want to spend near on £700.. | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:22 | |
| good point :s
iv my car was a bloody 16v it wd of been much easier | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:26 | |
| - GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
- good point :s
iv my car was a bloody 16v it wd of been much easier read up on that crossflow - inlet on front of engine, i guess it will be a mission finding the parts - prob the same cost as doing what i said above.. nd if you want to spend £700+ on tuning why not get a donor and go 6 cyl 12v - you will really like that noise | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:28 | |
| yea ures sounded sweet, i wanted to have a scan on ure engine bay, but id feel like an idiot asking ha ha
im looking now for a crossflow heaad ad stuf
think i might as TSR tunnig if theres a head that can fit lol | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:30 | |
| if your ever about just pop in for a cuppa and have a looksie - if its not too salty on the roads i might take it out - sonner the better ha!!
tsr = big bucks! | |
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Luke_MK1 VAG Wales Moderator
Number of posts : 2679 Ride : Mk2 GTI - Citroen C5 Registration date : 2009-04-11
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:31 | |
| Its quick Sound Immense too, but thats just a VR sound | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:33 | |
| i was tempted to bolt in the vr6 but without sycro running gear apparantly theyl ten to understeer more cause the block is heavier :S | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:35 | |
| yep thats a drawback much heavier on the front end - there is a different way to drive them completely - however a well set up one with decent branded tyres is a bit of a tool...
plus the 145mph top speed (limited by ecu) is cool - which can be extended using a 5th gear out of a diesel - and they are solid enough to charge!
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:37 | |
| im pretty sure 4x4 syncro gearbox would be good | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:39 | |
| - GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
- im pretty sure 4x4 syncro gearbox would be good
something i know nothing about - you need a mk2 syncro car and possibly a mk4 4motion box | |
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Luke_MK1 VAG Wales Moderator
Number of posts : 2679 Ride : Mk2 GTI - Citroen C5 Registration date : 2009-04-11
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:40 | |
| If your spending money, please just put a Audi S2 engine in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBiFgEdgQZk | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:40 | |
| ya, but theres plenty of room under the car 4 the difs and transfer box,
its like they were too lazy to build a different shape lol | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:42 | |
| - GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
- ya, but theres plenty of room under the car 4 the difs and transfer box,
the gti and syncro mk2 have a completely different floor pan/transfer tunnel. | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:44 | |
| hmm :s
wats the possibilities of buttin a 16v head onto the 1.8 8v? | |
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Luke_MK1 VAG Wales Moderator
Number of posts : 2679 Ride : Mk2 GTI - Citroen C5 Registration date : 2009-04-11
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:45 | |
| Why not, get a 16V lump and do your original idea ? | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:47 | |
| - GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
- hmm :s
wats the possibilities of buttin a 16v head onto the 1.8 8v? different shape pistons, diffenent fueling system etc - looms etc... ABF on digi!!! is what you want - plug and play from ibiza/mk3
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:48 | |
| - Luke_MK3 wrote:
- Why not, get a 16V lump and do your original idea ?
but why make a 16v gti when you could just buy one!!! | |
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Luke_MK1 VAG Wales Moderator
Number of posts : 2679 Ride : Mk2 GTI - Citroen C5 Registration date : 2009-04-11
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:48 | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:51 | |
| thats the key luke. unless your shell is extremely good, something that you could not live without etc etc dont build what you can buy.
a nice clean 8v gti converted to 16v is worth nothing really, where as a nice clean 8v is!! | |
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Cymro VAG Wales Admin
Number of posts : 2222 Ride : Mk2 Polo "Fern", Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross Registration date : 2008-03-26
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 20:52 | |
| Its also got something to do with the the programming of the ECU's too. One controls timing and fuelling the other just the fuelling.
Same principal applies to the mk3 polo's, its a lot less hassle putting throttle bodies onto a GT as the timing is vacuum controlled anyway and the ECU only handles the fuelling.
On the 1.1 and 1.3 Spi the ECU handles everything.
Also if you want to run ITB then aftermarket systems like Emerald are your best bet. | |
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20v-turbo VAG Legend
Number of posts : 3559 Ride : mk3 16v, mk3 8v, tt 225, a4 20v, mk2 20vt blah blah Registration date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 21:04 | |
| ye all true hmmm, a 16v from the mk3 is a good idea, but 8v engines are much nicer 1.8 g60 is rare and expensive vr6 = poerfull but heavy 2litr 8v is gd but lack of power, modding current engine expensive 1.8t amazing,, but expensiveee | |
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keith_lemon VAG Whore
Number of posts : 1654 Ride : bahh Registration date : 2008-06-09
| Subject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? Sun Nov 22 2009, 21:17 | |
| so the moral of the story is............................????????
abf imo... | |
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