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20v-turbo
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PostSubject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ??   anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 22 2009, 21:18

abf Razz as sooon as i get my chassi tuned for the road Razz
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GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
abf Razz as sooon as i get my chassi tuned for the road Razz

ill get a mk3 16v in to break then lmao
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nice ha ha Razz
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PostSubject: Re: anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ??   anyone know about 8v digifant running on individual throttle bodies ?? - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 23 2009, 00:03

itll be a beetle or mk3.5/cabriolet 2.0 head that u will need to source for the conversion.ideally u could use the 2.0 to start with,cam and a lot of headwork on the 2.0 then run on bike carbs shoudl net u 140hp in theory.This is what i had been looking to do but changed plans now.

hope this helps
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ye i think i might lookinto tht,

so the 2litre head is a cross flow??

i cba with ike carbss as the drain the consumption, but i heard ITB is great on fuel consumption nd an overall bette ugrade in power as then u can boost the fuel pressuure Razz
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believe it or not they are not that bad,bike carbs are more like throttle bodies and arent bad at all,my flatmate has 2.0 16v on carbs and its not bad at all to be fair. certain 2.0rs are crossflow but i think only beetles and convertibles.8v will be ace
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Mk4 2.0 8vs, Beetles etc. are crossflows, or imported Mk3s "ABA" engine code.
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now im getting exited Razz

now whats the chnces those heads will fit the mk2 8v ??
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To be honest there doesn't seem to be a great answer online. Some people say they would, some say they wouldn't. I couldn't find a proper answer to be honest.

Why don't you just get a port and polished head, high lift cam for your engine?
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yea,, my over all plan is to

2litre bottom end
full stainles straiht through exaust
(if it fits then the crossflow head, and then take it to tsr to get it ported and polished)
272 degree fast road cam
individual throttle bodies running on a high pressure fuel rail
then an emerald ecu if i find the money lol
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personally i would also stick in vauxhall 2.0 16v xe engine code white injectors,they really sort the fuelling on the 8v when tuned up a little which work well on digifant,i would never take anything to tsr personally.My friend has a g60 fire and ice with inlet manifold and head from tsr, and i dont want to offend anyone but to look at not that good.check my other posts and you will find a local,cheaper lad whos a good friend of mine to do a head for you if you like,well proven on vauxhall engines and is now sorting my friends g60.ill have him do me a head when i come into cash possibly vr6 Smile. Let us know how u get on
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how much you recon a polished and ported head would cost from your m8 Razz ???

cuz tsr cost rediculous
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ill giv him a bell,well tbh he will be at my house in bout half hour.he got a lot of rep on vauxhall forums.hes always got lots on.8v will obviously be cheaper than usual 16v how much is tsr head?i know second hand ones go for 150quid ish
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there is a guy who used to work for TSR before they went bust doing heads - apparently he now subcontracts for the new owners, dependant on what you want i can get a price for you, think he does bench flow figures with the heads he does too so you can see the improvement in paper.

with the pb head it really is best to get someone who knows the head well to do the work!!


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http://www.vagwales.net/the-vag-pages-f6/engine-work-t2122.htm

check this out bud it really is up to you just see what u fancy.ill get u a price before the night is over and ill pm you
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TSR isnt what they used to be. I think they charge around 700-900 for a head. You could get it done locally for 200-300. The head off my Mk2 is the L.R Barnes in Menai Bridge getting ported and polished alot cheaper than TSR.
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anyone know the power gains from porting and polishing then ? Razz



oh and also thinking about a turbo conversionn


a g60 turbo manifold will fit the 8v
but instead of fiddling with lo compression pistons, would it be possible to use the 2mm plate trick in order to get a lower compression ratio??
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Cam, stainless manifold and ported and polished head your looking 15-25bhp on an 8v GTI.
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thts not bad .....

but thts basically spending a good 500 quid for 25bhp

wer it wd cost 350 quid 4 an abf 16v, which is an extra 50 bhp lol

but then its not an 8v ..........
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GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
thts not bad .....

but thts basically spending a good 500 quid for 25bhp

wer it wd cost 350 quid 4 an abf 16v, which is an extra 50 bhp lol

but then its not an 8v ..........

id go the abf way myself - if done right, with a donor you could do it virtually for free by selling bits off the donor..
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2.0 block is easy to come by cheap,1800 head on 2.0 is best but needs headwork and enlarging valves for serious power but that is expensive,but a normal polished and matched head/inlet and a cam can be had cheapish,u dont want to spoil the carachter of the 8v so a mild one should be good,8v engines need uprated plugs and leads and injectors,together with a good exhaust aswell should net 135-140 set up properly with loads of torque and driveability.
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so basically buy a cheap mk3 gti 16v Smile nd strip nd sell it
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id tend to agree with anthony really as abfs really do go well in mk2s,it probably is the cheapest way to get big power
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GTI-8V-1991 wrote:
so basically buy a cheap mk3 gti 16v Smile nd strip nd sell it

a rusty one, not a cheap one - shouldn't be too hard to find
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You'd be pushed to get a ABF for 350, plus all the little thing you'll need to buy when doing the engine swap will soon add up.
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